Adam: Oh, hey everybody.
Completely unprepared for this as we appear to be.
Andy: Hey.
Andy: I'm Andy Wike.
Kaz: I'm Kaz Walters.
Adam: I'm Armitage Hux, and I'm Adam O'Neill.
Welcome to the April Mystery Review.
Andy: Yes.
Adam: It's April already, that's kind of crazy.
Kaz: Yeah.
Adam: I'm a little freaked out.
Kaz: Yeah, yeah.
Adam: This year's just running by.
Kaz: Feels like it was just a few weeks ago we were in here for March.
Adam: It ... yeah.
Kaz: Yeah.
Andy: I think that's actually true though.
Adam: Yeah, we-
Andy: I think it was a few weeks ago.
Kaz: Yeah, it was, it was ... yeah.
Adam: We're giving ourselves a little bit more of a lead on this one.
Kaz: Gotcha.
Adam: So, that's actually probably accurate.
Kaz: Okay.
I have an accurate gauge of how time works, okay, good.
Adam: Well ...
Andy: You're doing really well, Kaz.
Kaz: I try.
Adam: So, this month, we are reviewing ... well, our mystery I guess.
Kaz: Yeah.
Andy: Who knows.
Adam: I mean, looking at the cut and stuff, I don't know, what do you guys ... it looks
like it might have been a flake at one point that he's rubbed out.
Is my impression.
Kaz: That was my visual impression when I examined the bag but having smoked this, I'm
on the fence whether or not it was rubbed out or that's how it came from the factory.
Adam: Right.
Andy: Yeah.
I mean, I could think of a few-
Adam: But it does seem to be that ... I don't know, that finer cut.
It's still technically ribbon but it's kind of shorter.
Like flakes end up being when you roll them out.
Kaz: Oh, it's definitely pressed, yeah.
Adam: Almost like a ready rubbed.
Andy: For sure.
Adam: I'm just going to put my pipe down for a second because we don't smoke pipes in these
videos, as we've said before.
Kaz: Never.
Adam: I don't know.
Oh, that does smell good though.
I mean, I would ... does anyone here argue that this is almost entirely Virginia?
Would that be-
Kaz: I feel like that it's majority Virginia.
Adam: Well, yes, yes.
Andy: Yeah.
Adam: Yes.
Andy: I think there might be a little Perique.
Kaz: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Like a-
Adam: Maybe just a touch.
Kaz: ... modest, traditional amount of the Perique.
Adam: Like what?
You know, like 5-10%?
Adam: Probably around five.
It's not even-
Kaz: I would think six or under is what I'm thinking, yeah.
Adam: Yeah, yeah.
Adam: Yeah, it does smell on the lighter side.
It's that plummy ... but I don't know, this one's like it's almost perfumed at the same
time.
Not like a Lakeland perfume but there's like a muskiness.
Kaz: No, no.
Kaz: It's something that I actually associate with a hot press, or a steam press.
Adam: Right.
Kaz: And the color and the texture and there's a slight ... it's not fair to say this because
it's not entirely accurate but I don't know what descriptor would be better, there's a
slight acidic or vinegar in the back.
Andy: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Kaz: There's a tang there.
I-
Adam: Yeah, no, no, definitely.
Kaz: I associate with fermentation of Virginias.
Andy: Agreed.
Adam: Yeah, which makes me think maybe ... because Shane is our inquisitor of the
month.
So, I have a feeling that this is a blend well sell, however with probably at least-
Kaz: Some age on it.
Andy: I think it does really have some age on it.
Adam: Three, four years at least.
Kaz: Oh yeah.
Adam: At least.
Adam: Probably longer knowing Shane.
Kaz: Yeah, we've kind of jumped the line and started smoking it.
There's definite age here.
Adam: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Andy: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
That rich creaminess that you get from aged Virginias is just-
Kaz: I mean, I ... yeah.
This has been probably in a tin at least five years, I think.
Andy: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Adam: Which does make it kind of hard too because ... I don't know, there is a creaminess
that I feel like ... I don't know if I can just put down to age but it's kind of hard
to tell as well.
Maybe there's a little bit of Cavendish in this, just to smooth it out but if there was,
it's ... any traces of it seem to be long, long, gone.
Kaz: Everything that we've said has put me down a trail.
I've got three or four things that I think it could be but I'm still not ... the bowl
hasn't progressed enough for me to point out.
Adam: I mean ... yeah, yeah, we'll take it broad strokes.
Where do we think this is from?
What manufacturer?
Kaz: I feel fairly confident and I think you do as well-
Andy: Yeah.
Kaz: ... that this is a Rattray's product.
Andy: I'm pretty sure.
Adam: It's definitely German and yeah, I'd say that Rattray's is probably pretty close
to the one.
Kaz: I mean, they do ... if you're looking at old-school English, Scottish style Virginias,
no one really does it quite like Rattray's does.
You've got the Marlin Flake, the Old Gowrie, Hal O' the Wind.
These are styles of Virginia flakes and ready rubs that you don't see a lot of and that
kind of-
Andy: And that cut is ... that's Rattray's.
Adam: Oh, yeah, yeah.
Kaz: That's diagnostic, yeah.
Andy: Yeah.
Kaz: Hal O' the Wind looks like that right out of the tin and then when you rub out say,
Marlin Flake, that's what it looks-
Adam: It looks exactly like that.
Kaz: Yeah.
Adam: Do you think we can narrow it down.
Do we think it is Hal O' the Wind just because of the cut, or-
Kaz: I don't-
Adam: Do we think that Shane was being sneaky and just rubbed it out.
Andy: I don't know, I mean, out of the-
Adam: Or is this even just like whatever he had at the bottom of a big old aging jar.
Andy: I know Shane loves Hal.
Adam: He does, it's true.
Andy: He has tins and tins and tins of Hal just aging and aging and aging.
Adam: And those ... what's that color, it's not like a mustard, it's like that old, it
wasn't yellow, what was it?
It's like a-
Kaz: It was like a tanny beige.
Adam: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kaz: With a slight ... what I think of as parchment, like a yellowed ... yeah.
Adam: Yes.
Kaz: And honestly, I miss those labels.
Andy: I honestly don't know.
I think this ... Hal O' the Wind straight out of the tin, for me, is a little bit rougher-
Kaz: Yeah.
Andy: ... on the palate than Marlin Flake is.
Adam: Yep.
Andy: But I'm pretty sure this has some age on it, which would smooth that down a little
bit and it's really hard for me right now because Marlin Flake straight out of the tin,
for me is-
Adam: I do keep on thinking Marlin Flake because it tastes the closest in my mind but when
I take into account what knowing Shane ... like what, at least five?
Probably five or more years of age is going to do to it, I think Hal O' the Wind's probably
a better-
Kaz: Yeah.
Kaz: See, I ... yeah, I love Hal O' the Wind but that being said, I can't mindlessly smoke that.
Andy: Yeah.
Kaz: That's something that I smoke at home when I'm sitting on the couch or in the armchair
and I can really pay attention to it.
If I put it in my pipe at work, fresh, and I get going dealing with pipes or customers
or anything just mindlessly puffing, it can bite just a little.
Andy: Yeah.
Adam: A little, yeah.
Kaz: So ... and I'm not getting that at all from this.
So, it's definitely from age, or it's ... I'm inclined to think-
Adam: Aged Hal?
Kaz: Yeah.
Adam: That'd be my guess as well.
Adam: All right, well-
Andy: Yeah.
I think I'm on the same page there.
Kaz: And while we're maybe half way down the bowl.
Adam: It feels like this is super short this week but let's have a look and, you know,
I'm kind of curious.
Shane: Hey, everybody.
Shane Ireland here.
I'm pleased to be in the inquisitor chair this time, as opposed to the blind side of
the Mystery Tobacco Review.
Shane: So, the first rule of mystery tobacco reviews is that we don't talk about mystery
tobacco reviews.
No, no, no.
The first rule is that there are no rules.
So, I'm sure that these guys ... they're assuming that I'm going to do something crazy and have
some crazy trick up my sleeve.
Shane: This time, I picked Solani 660 Silver Flake but the catch is I picked a 12 year
old jar from my personal cellar.
Shane: So, I suspect that pretty much everybody ... because I know these guys have sharp palates
... I suspect that they're going to guess that this is an aged tobacco.
What I'm really curious to see is how well they can pick out the components of a blend
that has this much age on it.
Shane: So, Solani 660 Silver Flake is famously a blend of red Virginias, with a little bit
of dark-fired Kentucky.
I bet that some of these guys guess that there's Perique.
That might be the most hotly contested argument of this addition of Mystery Tobacco Review
is whether or not this has Perique because I'm pretty sure they're going to guess that
there's age though but other than that, it should throw them for a loop, so good luck
gentleman, you'll need it.
Kaz: Well, we at least got-
Adam: Damn, I-
Kaz: We got the country of manufacture correct and that should count for something.
Adam: I mean, aged.
Kaz: Yeah.
Adam: But he played us like a fiddle, man.
He knew exactly what we were going to be thinking.
Andy: I mean, he called it, he called from the beginning, you know.
Adam: He did.
I mean, I feel-
Andy: That was a really good one.
Adam: Yeah.
I feel used.
Adam: I feel a little dirty.
Andy: I feel like a puppet.
Adam: Right.
Andy: Yeah.
Kaz: I think I'm going to-
Andy: It's Shane the puppeteer.
Kaz: I'm going to get HR and we'll book the conference room and we'll have a support group
meeting.
Andy: I really like that idea.
I think I might need it.
Kaz: Do you feel personally victimized by Shane Ireland?
Andy: I do, I do.
Andy: It's sort of like a fatalist argument, my whole day's been planned out by Shane.
Kaz: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Adam: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Andy: After this, I'm going to go do an email or something and Shane's going to be like,
"Ha, ha, ha, ha."
Adam: "It's what I planned all along."
Andy: "I knew you were going to do this."
Adam: "Three years ago in fact."
Andy: Right.
Adam: Oh, well.
Andy: Oh, man.
Well, thanks for watching us.
Adam: Well, I am going to enjoy the rest of Shane's bag of 12 year aged Solani.
Andy: Right.
Adam: So, thanks for that.
Played yourself, sucker.
Andy: Right.
We get aged tobacco.
Adam: Woooo.
Kaz: Yeah.
Adam: All right, well, thanks guys
Andy: Consolation prize.
Kaz: See ya.
Andy: Thanks so much. Thanks for watching
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