I'm Asrul
We're in "GOJEKIN"
wait no, "GO-JEK Talkin"?? "GO-TALKIN"??
ಠ_ಠ
Hey brother
what are we going to do now?
Introduce ourself right?
"GO-TALK About It"
My name is Asrul, from Product Engineer at GO-FOOD, I'm in charge for iOS platform
how long you've been here?
this May will be my 3rd year in here
My name is Arlinda
I'm Product Manager at GO-PAY
I was Porduct Manager at GO-JEK before
now at GO-PAY, is it different?
it is different
1 2 3 ..
stay with us at GO-TALK About It ༼ つ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° ༽つ
here's the question
I think you have to go first
wow my photo ʘ‿ʘ
just rip it off
what does product engineer do?
(ʘᗩʘ')
what do we do?
smoking maybe
just kidding (͡ ͡° ͜ つ ͡͡°)
I can tell you from mobile engineer perspective
first thing we do is designing a catch up with designer team
so after we decide what features we're going to do
first thing we do is designing a catch up, because we want to see how it is implemented in the feature
at this stage we will have a lot discussion
the point of Mobile Engineering is
We build a feature for the app people need after conduct a research
also coding
of course, the point is we do coding
don't give hard question
I have no idea, I'm not the one who made this question
what are the difference between product engineering and product management
(▀̿Ĺ̯▀̿ ̿)
we become a slave of product management
no
I think the different is product engineering do coding
that's true right?
and the product management is more likely to gathering requirement
thinking about road map product
catching up with the business, marketing, and the others
I think that's the difference
I think it's right
how do product engineering see the users?
in my opinion
maybe there are some engineers don't understand this thing
when we developing a product and feature what we have to think about is being a user centric
actually is not only product manager jobs to analyze user behavior data
but we as product engineers have the responsibility to understand what users need
and from there we can decide what feature what we want to make in the future
that's right x3
especially in here(GO-JEK), a lot of developer already challenge a product manager
yes
when there's 1 requirement like
when there's 1 requirement and they be like
what is it for?
what's the impact?
what's the function?
what's the purpose?
something like that
and one of them is Asrul
how do product manager work with product engineer?
for me I have my own philosophy
relation between product manager and product engineer is like chef and waitress
so engineer is the chef
and product manager is the waitress
Product Manager is the one who ask the customer what they want and tell it to the chef
that's my philosophy for this team
so if there's an error in our product
customer will be angry at us
that's my opinion
do you agree?
yes I agree with you
but the point is we're working together as a team
what makes product engineer frustated
for me personally, what make me frustated is
product manager
no no
requirement that always change
might be caused by business impact
or
design that always changes
who are you going to be angry to then?
product manager right?
no no no
not that I'm angry
but more like we give a feedbacks
or change at the end of the sprint
that's the best one to make frustated
what is the most fulfilling part of being product manager?
I think the answer is pretty much the same between product manager and engineering
when our product is used and loved by people
(ღ˘⌣˘ღ)
that's the priceless fulfilling part
agree
when someone is posting our product online and they said "this is cool"
that's it
What are the perks of dating a product engineer?
PD : what are the perks of dating product engineer?
dating product engineer?!
I understand
sorry I never date product engineer
(☞゚∀゚)☞
the perks of dating us is when you wanted to build a startup and needed a website
take an advantage of him to make website
ya ya agree
how about product manager?
there's none
we got nothing, would even be more complicated
would be asking for difficult things
poor my girlfriend
If you have a chance to become a superhero,
what do you want to be and why?
hmmm which superhero
Saras 007 *actually 008*
SARAS 008
haha I'm old
Ironman is my favorite
because Ironman is makes more sense
we can actually build it and he's also rich
PD : this part is empty because we want you to ask questions one to another
oh alright
I have to ask a question for you
the question is
just don't ask about my salary
don't worry
what is the most memorable moment in GO-JEK?
you've been here for how long?
this May will be my 3rd year, I'm so old
what is the most memorable moment in GO-JEK?
the most memorable moment was when we wanted to re-create GO-JEK apps
the first phase of version 2.0
at that time, there's still few numbers of engineers
for me, personally, we didn't have much experience to go to through this thing
there were lots of delayed process and we were facing other problems, too
at that time, we were really excited
full of intrigue
Intrigue and Inpolimic
but we've learn so much from that
now you should ask me question too
as one the female product manager
compare to others
what do you feel working in tech company as a female which I think mostly dominant by male?
to be honest, for me
I don't know what other females are thinking, but for me
I'd rather dealing with male employees
really?
because there's no hard feeling
Do you usually have hard feeling?
a little bit *just kidding
we are arguing a lot
and if you are arguing with guys
after we finished, there's no hard feeling if I work with male
hmm what else
and sometimes become a minority giving you some advantage
and benefit
yes something like that
This or That
how long you've known each other?
I know him for about 2 years
I've known him in GO-JEK for about 2,5 years
she was a loyal customer of my coffee
ya that's right
where is your coffee now?
It's already bankrupt
he used to sell coffee
Coffee Bundar
you guys supposed to know each other very well
yes supposed to be
but we never really work together
yes we never work together
I'm the man who love to play
too lazy to work
i'm in trouble if my wife know this
for buying cameras
I rather meet ghost
ghost will attack you
but ghost won't kill you
thief might kill you
lots of discounts using GO-PAY
for you guys who just watch our session,
we have a question for all of you
choose one of the product
thank you for watching us
if you want to know more about product engineer and product manager in GO-JEK
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finally you remember our instagram
and for you guys who feel your job is not challenging you enough
or often work overtime
you can join us
you can join GO-PAY or GO-FOOD *or GO-JEK
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you can find this kind of videos at our youtube channel
you can watch our previous episode there's Galih and Nabil explaining about UX





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