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IS IT IMPORTANT THAT THE RUSSIANS MEDDLED IN OUR

ELECTIONS?

BOTH OF OUR INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES UNDER

OBAMA AND TRUMP SAY THEY DID.

BUT WHAT IS THAT MEAN?

IS IT A

MATTER OF GETTING SOME EMAILS AND RELEASING THEM TO THE

PUBLIC?

IF IT WAS I WOULDN'T THINK IT WAS THAT BIG A DEAL,

THERE ARE MANY WAYS THE PRESS COULD HAVE GOTTEN THOSE, I WISH

WE WOULD HAVE SEEN THE EMAILS OF REPUBLICANS AS WELL, BUT IT'S

NEWSWORTHY.

ON THE OTHER HAND IF TRUMP AND THE RUSSIANS HAVE A

DEAL THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT AND MUELLER THE SPECIAL COUNSEL

SHOULD INVESTIGATE.

BUT THERE'S A THIRD ELEMENT THAT I THINK IS

THE MOST IMPORTANT, WHICH IS WHAT IF THEY GOT INTO THE VOTER

ROLLS?

THIS ISSUE WAS BROUGHT UP BEFORE BUT NBC NEWS HAS NEW

DEVELOPMENTS ON IT TODAY.

FIRST LET ME REMIND YOU WHAT THE OBAMA

WHITE HOUSE USED TO THINK ABOUT IT --

THOSE ARE VERY STRONG WORDS, AND I THINK RIGHTFULLY SO.

HERE

IS ANOTHER QUOTE FROM JOHNSON, HE SAID --

THAT'S MASSIVE.

I DON'T CARE IF IT'S THE SAUDIS WHO ARE DOING

IT, THE CHINESE, OR PARAGUAY OR BOTSWANA -- A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT

TRYING TO INFILTRATE OUR VOTER REGISTRATION DATABASE IS AN EPIC

DISASTER.

ARE YOU POSITIVE THAT THE PEOPLE WHO DID OUR VOTER

DATABASES ARE THE TOP CYBERSECURITY EXPERTS IN THE

WORLD?

REMEMBER THEY ARE DONE STATE-BY-STATE, SO THE GUY IN

ARIZONA IS GOING TO OUTWIT ANY HACKER WHETHER THEY ARE RUSSIAN,

CHINESE, INDIAN, OR ANYTHING ELSE?

ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT?

I

DEFINITELY AM NOT, AND HERE IS THE GOVERNMENT SAYING YES, THEY

ARE TRYING TO GET INTO THE VOTING ROLLS.

I'M WORRIED THAT

PEOPLE HERE WILL HACK INTO IT FOR PARTISAN REASONS.

I THINK

OUR SECURITY AT THE VOTING BOOTH IS ABYSMAL.

AND ANYTIME YOU ASK

THE STATES ABOUT IT THEY ARE LIKE, THAT'S OUR BUSINESS, WE

WON'T TELL YOU, IT'S SECRET.

BECAUSE THEY ARE EMBARRASSED,

THEY DON'T HAVE TOP CYBERSECURITY EXPERTS AND MY

GUESS IS AT SOME POINT IT WILL BE SHOCKINGLY EASY TO HACK INTO

THOSE.

NOW --

AND GOD KNOWS HOW MANY OTHER GOVERNMENTS ARE TRYING THIS, AND

NOW THAT THEY KNOW WHOLE VULNERABLE WE ARE, HOW MANY WILL

TRY IN 2018?

THAT LEADS US TO THE NEWS FOR TODAY.

IF YOU ARE A

PARTISAN YOU COULD SAY THOSE ARE THE OBAMA GUYS, I DON'T KNOW IF

I TRUST THEM.

NOW THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS WEIGHING IN --

THAT'S A TRUMP OFFICIAL SAYING NOT ONLY DID THE RUSSIANS

TRY, THEY SUCCEEDED IN PENETRATING TO ANYONE STATES'

VOTER REGISTRATION ROLLS.

FIRST OF ALL, THEY CAN MESS AROUND

WITH THE VOTING REGISTRATION AND CAUSE MAYHEM, YOU GO IN AND THEY

GO SORRY, YOU AREN'T REGISTERED.

OR THEY TAKE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE

OFF THE ROLLS OR ADD PEOPLE TO THE ROLLS.

SO THEY COULD CAUSE

COMPLETE CHAOS THERE.

ON TOP OF THAT, YOU THINK THEY'RE JUST

GOING TO STOP AT REGISTRATION?

THEY ARE GOING TO SAY WE DID THE

EMAILS AND THE VOTER REGISTRATION, BUT ACTUALLY

CHANGING THE VOTE COUNTS?

WHY, WE WOULD NEVER.

HEY, EVERYBODY

AT THE KREMLIN, OR ANYWHERE, ANY OTHER COUNTRY THAT WANTS TO

INFLUENCE US, YOU THINK THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE ETHICS AND BE

LIKE, SHOULD WE FIX THE AMERICAN ELECTION SO THE PEOPLE WE WANT

OUR ELECTED, AND GIVE US POTENTIALLY TRILLIONS OF

DOLLARS?

NAH.

LET'S NOT DO IT.

I MEAN, WE HAVE TO TAKE MASSIVE

SAFEGUARDS HERE.

THIS IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANY OF THE OTHER

ISSUES.

SO JEANETTE MANFRA, THE HEAD OF CYBERSECURITY AT DHS UNDER

TRUMP, SAID --

FIRST OF ALL THAT WAS BACK IN 2016.

EVERY YEAR THEY WILL GET

BETTER AT THIS.

IF THEY PENETRATED A COUPLE THAT MEANS

THEY COULD PENETRATE MORE.

AND I DON'T CARE THAT THEY DIDN'T

SUCCESSFULLY DO IT IN ALL 21 STATES, THEY TARGETED 21, NEXT

TIME THEY WILL TARGET 50 AND GOD KNOWS HOW MANY TIMES THEY WILL

SUCCEED.

AND OUR STATES ARE THROWING UP WALLS GOING DON'T

MESS AROUND WITH MY THINGS, DON'T LOOK AT IT BECAUSE I DON'T

WANT TO BE EMBARRASSED -- NO, WE HAVE TO HAVE OUR TOP EXPERTS

SAFEGUARDING OUR VOTE.

OKAY --

JEANETTE MANTRA DISAGREES A LITTLE BIT, SHE SAYS --

THEY HAVE TAKEN IT SERIOUSLY, WHATEVER THAT MEANS.

WHAT DOES

THAT MEAN?

CAN WE HAVE A SENSE OF WHAT THEY HAVE DONE?

I DON'T

WANT YOU TO GIVE US THE CODE, THAT'S OBVIOUSLY A BAD IDEA, BUT

JUST SOMETHING LIKE HERE ARE THE PRECAUTIONS ARIZONA TOOK, NEW

JERSEY TOOK, ALABAMA TOOK, AND HERE ARE THE PEOPLE WE ARE USING

WHO YOU CAN REST ASSURED OF THE TOP EXPERTS, AND ALL THE THINGS

WE'VE DONE TO MAKE SURE NO ONE WILL HACK IN.

NOTHING FROM THE

STATES, NO WORD AT ALL.

JUST TAKE OUR WORD FOR IT, WE GOT

THIS.

YOU DON'T HAVE THIS AT ALL --

SO WE KNOW THEY GOT THROUGH IN ILLINOIS, THAT'S ALREADY

PUBLIC.

NOW THE TRUMP PERSON SAYS IT WAS MORE THAN ILLINOIS,

THEY SUCCESSFULLY PENETRATED VOTER ROLLS IN SEVERAL STATES

AND HAVE TARGETED DOZENS.

FINALLY MORE FROM NBC --

THIS SHOULD BE PRIORITY NUMBER ONE OF ANY INVESTIGATION.

LOOK, THE SPECIAL COUNSEL LOOKING INTO TRUMP AND WHETHER

LAWS WERE BROKEN, THAT IS IN A SENSE A DIFFERENT MATTER.

THE

MORE IMPORTANT THING IS, MAKE SURE THE VOTE IS SAFE.

ARE YOU

SURE YOU KNOW WHICH WAY THE RUSSIANS ARE GOING TO HACK?

I

MEAN, IF YOU ARE A REPUBLICAN ARE YOU NOW CELEBRATING?

THE

RUSSIANS, HERE WE GO, THEY THROW IT IN OUR FAVOR.

HOW DO YOU KNOW

THEY ARE GOING TO THROW IT IN YOUR FAVOR?

MAYBE THEY LIKE THE

PROGRESSIVE IDEA OF KEEPING OUT OF SYRIA, AND NOT ANTAGONIZING

RUSSIA WITH FURTHER MILITARY BUILDUP ON THEIR BORDER.

MAYBE

THEY'LL VOTE FOR IMMIGRANTS.

CAN WE FIX THIS THING TO MAKE SURE

AMERICANS ARE VOTING, AND NO ONE ELSE?

DRIVE ME CRAZY WHEN YOU

HAVE THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUES BEING TREATED AS MINOR

THROWAWAYS.

PROTECT THE VOTE AT ALL COSTS.