joining us now is Florida congressman Matt Gaetz American Conservative Union
Chairman match slap and civil rights and criminal defense attorney David showin
or a good evening gentlemen congressman gates I'm going to start with you
you know underlying all of this and the reason we're here is because we're
finally getting the opportunity to see some of the documents some of the text
messages some of the emails and yet here we are in the middle of the summer and
we still don't have all those requested documents from the DOJ and the FBI what
makes you guys think that struck is going to tell you anything and not claim
the fifth it's not the answers he gives it's the ones he doesn't that seem to
interest me the most I'm particularly interested in Peter strux interactions
with Robert Muller after Muller found out about these text
messages and I think we'll learn a lot about the lack of curiosity that Muller
had in determining whether or not the bias of Peter struck you know actually
manifested in the official actions of the investigation now Peter struck at
one point was America's top spy catcher so don't expect him to crawl into the
fetal position and begin weeping you know he will have his side of the story
I think largely he was dishonest and and very opaque and his answers in his
closed-door session okay in that slap I mean one of the things that that you've
been talking about is the fact that the Republicans haven't seemed to learn to
step up and stand up for the President and for the party at large and just kind
of live and let live I think we've really had a failure to understand
Republicans in Congress have had a failure to understand that oversight is
one of the most critical things that they have to do constitutionally they
have the power of the purse they fund these agencies it's their job to make
sure the money is being spent well judge what we have seen with the abuses at the
FBI make none of us happy because all of us respect the FBI we know we need the
FBI but it's because we respect the FBI when we see this type of wrongdoing we
have to stand up and say enough but as citizens we're not empowered to do much
it's Congress that's empowered to do what needs to be done and I tell you the
Republicans in Congress is a real moment for them they have to demonstrate to the
country that has this had nothing to do with our national security in Russia it
has everything to do with nevertrump furs embedded at the top spots of the
FBI and trying to impact that election saying they will stop Donald Trump if
that is not enough for Republicans in Congress to say that they will take all
the appropriate steps to end it and DOJ has to do the same they're not doing it
you know what I'm asking them to do it to tell ya finding out you know what are
you gonna do what are you gonna hold him in contempt what are you gonna damage
Schon now you know the system better than
anyone all right you say that when struck testified behind closed doors
there should have been some preconditions what were they absolutely
first of all we know from the inspector general that we don't have a whole set
of struck or pages emails we should have all of those Congress must demand that
they be produced Judicial Watch is on to those kinds of things but it's not again
it's not just struck remember what we didn't see and that an inspector general
report was anyone at any point ever telling struck or his colleagues that
their conduct was inappropriate what I really want to see them get to is
this meeting that struck told the IG about that he had with page and with
Andrew McCabe in McCabe's office during which the agenda was stop Trump
McCabe denies it where he doesn't recall it I want to get to the bottom of that
so how do we how do we get to the bottom of it well first of all remember
Struck's attorney has been boasting that struck is dying to testify openly at
Congress that he will testify that he's an unfair victim here one thing we know
for sure is that there is no good answer to the emails that struck wrote he's
gonna have to eat those and that sets the agenda and remember that infected
the whole process you know the IG found he can't determine whether bias infected
the prosecutorial decisions but remember the prosecutor is only as good as the
investigator he or she makes his or her decisions on whether to prosecute based
on the body of investigative material they're given so people like struck
decided what to go after what not to go after etcetera
there was an essential position and congressman gates you know the
frustration that I have in the viewers have is that you know there are some
guys like you you know whether in Jim Jordan and Ron DeSantis and and trey
Gowdy most of the time but we're not seeing a lot of action here what can we
expect as opposed to just saying bring him in well to my friend match laughs I
would I would point him to the comments of Rod Rosenstein on May 1st when he
said that Congress has no constitutional role for oversight that's what we're
fighting against now if I'm part of Justice that doesn't believe we have a
right for oversight it's outrageous and frankly it shows how important it is for
the small group of us who've been really pounding the facts on this issue to get
support from our leadership you know how the Democrats will do oversight judge
Jeanine they'll say the damn documents will be there at 10 o'clock or your
impeachment proceeding begins at 10:01 that's what we ought to do we ought to
demand the documents or we ought to begin impeachment proceedings gates it's
the leadership are we talking about Paul Ryan or we're talking about good lad
we're talking about Mitch McConnell let's name them because this is what the
viewers and what the American people want you can come on and talk all you
want for the next 30 minutes the next 30 days if the leadership doesn't let you
do it then you can't do it am I right or wrong congressman you're
right I have been in Congress for about 18 months judge Jeanine and
I haven't entirely figured out this place yet but I know that nothing
happens unless the leadership wants it to happen I am proud of Judiciary
Chairman Bob Goodlatte for accelerating the schedule I think we're gonna have to
Comey and Lynch and struck and page all giving public testimony very soon and
I'm encouraged by that but from the speaker's office on down we need more
support those of us who need the documents the new water open hearings of
the American people see what happens I'll go to map slam what kind of support
is he talking about I don't need someone's permission to ask for a
document we've got civil attorneys tom Fitton
going to court and getting it on his own Congress is that impotent yeah I mean
that's exactly right what the congressman just said is they can demand
it they can hold someone in contempt and they can start impeachment proceedings
but the key is is this which is the end of the day judge
a political question and the American people are watching and if these
congressmen including Republicans don't take these aggressive steps they're
gonna throw people out of office and there's a leadership race for the house
for the to be the next speaker on the Republican side hopefully we hold on to
that majority I think I think these types of decisions will impact that race
and finally the tlj is going to have to prosecute they don't prosecute that none
of this meant anything well and I agree David don't you I mean it seems that and
I think at one point trey gowdy may have said something like that you know I'm
more interested in finding out the truth and you know the criminal consequences
well I'm a prosecutor I'm interested in criminal consequences I'm interested in
setting the record I'm interested in making a precedent for this if you are
at the upper echelon of the chief law enforcement agency in the nation and it
seems the whole top echelon was going in one direction for Hillary against Trump
then I have to believe the whole culture the FBI other than the regular guys in
the field offices there's a problem look it clearly reflects the culture let
me say this my father was an FBI agent I grew up an FBI groupie this is a huge
blemish on the FBI but it is a culture and it also infects the prosecutors let
me tell you this judge this is one of the worst cases in the FBI but I have
the worst case of FBI corruption in the Eastern District of New York and you
know who the prosecutor was on that case Andrew Weissman yeah the right-hand man
of Muller so we'd say culture here yes and the America it shouldn't be a left
or right issue the American people that was appointing here for someone not
politically sophisticated the American people should demand transparency
there's not an investigation which a source would be busted here a real
national security consequence if we expose as information listen the
presiding judge of the FISA Court judge Collier told Congress that they should
ask the Justice Department for the FISA application documents now look I think
the judge also should exercise her supervisory capacity given the
wrongdoing we know with those applications the misleading and the
omissions all right how you're so much down too and I'll go to you congressman
and we only a few seconds left it comes down to a prosecutor I don't need to
hear about this in it with all due respect to you congressman I don't need
about this in an open session I don't need to read all these emails I need a
real prosecutor to get in there and find out what the truth is and whether or not
everything they said and did which indicates a negative intent or trouble
is acted upon and rot rosin signs not going to do it and Jeff Sessions isn't
gonna do it so is there justice congressman gates in this in the end I
don't think there will be if Jeff Sessions remains the Attorney General
and it is a sad thing to have to admit that judge Jeanine but we have demanded
a special prosecutor to make precisely the decisions that you just outlined and
Jeff Sessions has proven to be a very captive to the deep state actors at the
Department of Justice that seemed to have him very flummoxed all right last
words match lap I'm more hopeful I actually think the American people are
appalled at this and I actually think there are thousands of prosecutors at
DOJ and I think they're gonna demand that something be done if nobody is
sitting in jail after this all happens there's going to be a political revolt
like we haven't seen for a long time there's no prosecutor who can do it
without Rod Rosenstein who convinced jeff Sessions to recuse himself who
doesn't have the political will of be polite tonight doesn't have the
political will to go in there and put together a grand jury
well maybe there'll be some changes maybe there'll be some changes though
you're right judge and you know about prosecutors you know about prosecutors
look it has to change from the top I don't say the president should have to
be the bad guy but there shouldn't even be this crisis with Congress and
contempt rod Rosenstein has to be removed look he's running the Muller
investigation we know how broad that has gone now and he got cute with Jim Jordan
the other day when he was asked who told struck he couldn't answer these
questions he said look you know I've got 150 15,000 employees I don't know he's
just one that's nonsense the focus is on struck and the FBI director and everyone
else ought to be mortified at what has been uncovered now smart guy David shown
gentlemen congressman Matt Gaetz said Matt slap great great segment
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