My opponent tonight is Karamo Brown,
one of the stars of the Netflix show, Queer Eye.
If he thinks he's going to get me to cry tonight,
he's gonna have to dig real deep.
Or just mention my dad.
Karamo Brown, everybody.
-Hey! -Karamo, welcome. Welcome. -(cheering and applause)
-So, your father... -Please, don't...
-Can we... can we wait? Can we wait? -Okay. We'll wait.
We'll wait, we'll wait, we'll wait.
But do you know something? Does he love me?
I do.
-We will get to that. -Okay, okay.
-'Cause that's a Pandora's box, all right? -Yes.
And that she-devil's box, you do not want to open.
-I want to talk about your show. -Yes.
Queer Eye. Now, the Fab Five,
uh, you shoot a lot of this in Georgia,
-which is a red state. -Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Is this goal of this show transforming Trump's America
to become more liberal? Is that your end goal?
No!
-Okay, that... -Okay. (laughs)
No, our-our goal is definitely not to change, uh,
you know, the red states pink, you know?
We just want to make sure that they open their hearts
-a little bit. -So you-you w... you're going out there
-to try to change parts of America. -Yeah.
Well, no, we're not trying to change parts of America.
We're trying to make people feel better about who they are
so that, hopefully, they'll change themselves.
How do you have the hard conversation with yourself
so you can have a hard conversation with other people?
How do you have a hard conversation with yourself?
Well, let's start with your father.
-Please, okay, let's... That was... -Okay?
How do you have a hard conversation with yourself?
-We start with my father. -You start with your...
-It-it all starts there. -It starts from the top down.
-Yeah. Uh-huh. -You-you are... You cover culture.
-Yes. -Now, that's something I've never been that into.
-(laughs) -What do you mean... When you walk in there
with a focus on culture, what are you talking about?
So, culture is actually a misleading title, you know?
My goal is actually to fix the inside.
My background is in social work, psychotherapy.
So it's all about figuring out what's blocking you
and what's stopping you from talking to people
or being curious about life.
And that's where, really, my goal is.
That's why you see the tears. It's...
I break them down on the inside.
How do... how do you make somebody... how...
-Now, that's something I'm interested in. -Yeah, okay.
How do you break a person down from the inside?
-Exactly. -How do you get at the tears?
How-how do you make somebody cry?
I've just been watching Republicans all week,
-so that's how I usually do it. Yeah. -Yes, yes?
I just follow their format. Yeah.
'Cause I have been crying since this election started.
-There's been a lot of tears on television. -Yes, definitely.
Well, stuff has shifted. The... Uh, Queer Eye
-for the Straight Guy started in 2003. -Yes.
-Queer Eye is now 15 years later. -Uh-huh.
Well, how is this show different?
How is it approached differently?
How have times changed, in that sense?
Um, well... How have times changed?
-Well, there was a Bush in office the first time. -Yeah.
Now there's a-an ass in office.
-So, yeah. -We've made... we've made America great again.
Uh... (stammers) Perspective, right?
-Sure. -I think what we're really trying to hope
and trying to figure out, like,
why do you all keep trying to change everything, you know?
I liked the country we had beforehand.
And I think what we want people to see
is that there's a beauty in the country that was here once
-and we don't need to change it. -There's been
-some interesting moments on your show as well. -Yes. Yeah.
-Uh, there was one when you were in Georgia, -Yes.
uh, and-and you had a sit-down with a police officer.
What's happen... what happened there?
Well, he is a Trump supporter, a police officer,
and we had a very transparent conversation about what it is
to be a black man, for me, a gay man in America,
with the militarization of police officers.
And it was really beautiful, because two people
who normally don't have a dialogue came together
and found common ground in the fact that we are fathers,
in the fact that we are proud Americans,
in the fact that we want to see our country be the best
-that it can be. -Why do you think people are being draw...
uh, drawn to Queer Eye? It's had a lot of popularity recently.
Uh, what is it about the show that sticks out
that people want to watch?
Uh, as... I-I'm... I wish you could tell me months ago,
-uh, what that secret could be. Uh... -(laughing)
But what do you... what do you think the nugget is
inside of a show like that,
-where people would tune in regularly? -It's-it's funny,
-'cause I tune in regularly to you, so... -I'll take that.
-I'll take... -You actually have it all. It's the good hair,
good clothes, pretty eyes, and being open to America.
-This is... this is... Y... -(cheering and applause)
Are you crying?
So, that message was actually from your father.
I see... Oh, don't... Karamo, you be careful.
-I s... I see your wicked ways. -Yes. Exactly.
Why do you think this resonates in 2018?
Really, it's because, uh, we're at a time right now
where a lot of people feel very divided and disconnected.
They don't feel like people are talking to each other anymore.
And this is an opportunity for people to realize
that we're more alike than we are different.
And that's what's most important in all of this.
-You're political also outside the show. -I am. Very political.
-Wha-What are your passions? -Um, my passions vary
from comprehensive gun control...
I was a-a graduate of, uh, Marjory Stoneman Douglas
in Parkland, Florida. I'm also a father.
And to see these children die at the hands of guns,
it's not about taking guns away from Americans--
it's about how can we work together
-to protect our children. -Do you have political aspirations?
Um, you know what, I-I would say this.
Ronald Reagan was, you know, a Californian man,
and he also was president.
Trump was a reality star, and he's president.
I don't know. Maybe one day, you know,
there could be a gay, black governor of California.
(cheering and applause)
Could that be the change America needs?
You think Californians would vote for a liberal?
(laughing)
Tell me something I already know.
Um, that Donald Trump
is probably the greatest magician we have ever seen.
That sleight of hand-- he tricks you over here and says,
"Look, I'm changing immigration.
"I'm gonna repeal what I just done with all...
"tearing apart all these families,
"while I'm also pulling us out of the U.N.
and, um, the human rights."
And so I think that's something
that we should really be focusing on
is that this greatest magician
is trying to pull the wool over our eyes.
And we now know there's a man behind the curtain,
and we're not gonna take it anymore.
He shows you the big hand,
-he grabs you with the other. -Yeah. Yeah.
I hear that. A new season of Queer Eye
is now available on Netflix. Karamo Brown.
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