"MATTER OF FACT WITH SOLEDAD O'BRIEN." THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING AGAIN.
THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY SAYS NO MISTAKE ABOUT IT, OUR ELECTORAL SYSTEM IS STILL A HOT TARGET FOR HACKERS -- ESPECIALLY AGENTS OF THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT.
WE'RE LESS THAN 100 DAYS UNTIL THE MIDTERMS.
AND DESPITE WARNINGS FROM INTELLIGENCE OFFICIALS THAT FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS WILL TRY TO INTERFERE, THE SENATE SHOT DOWN A PROPOSAL THAT WOULD HAVE GIVEN STATES AN EXTRA $250 MILLION TO
BEEF UP SECURITY 46 DEMOCRATS AND ONLY ONE REPUBLICAN, SENATOR BOB CORKER, SUPPORTED THE MEASURE.
EARLIER THIS YEAR, CONGRESS GAVE STATES $380 MILLION TO SAFEGUA THE MIDTERM ELECTIONS.
AND REPUBLICANS WANT TO KNOW HOW THAT MONEY HAS BEEN SPENT BEFORE THEY RECOMMIT TO MORE.
IN 2017 WHEN HOMELAND SECURITY DESIGNATED ELECTIONS AS CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE, MANY SECRETARIES OF STATE INITIALLY OPPOSED THE DESIGNATIO JIM CONDOS, VERMONT'S SECRETARY
OF STATE, WAS ONCE A VOICE OF OPPOSITION BUT HAS CHANGED HIS MIND.
HE JOINS US FROM BURLINGTON.
IT IS NICE TO SEE YOU.
THANK YOU FOR TALKING WITH US.
YOU WERE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS DESIGNATION AS I JUST MENTIONED.
WH JIM CONDOS: SO SOLEDAD, THE WHOLE REASON WHY WE ACTUALLY HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT IT AND CONCERNS IS THAT WE DID NOT KNOW WHAT A CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE
DESIGNATION MEANT.
AND MANY OF US -- MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES AND I -- WE FELT THAT THIS LOOKED LIKE AN OVERREACH OF FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
THAT THEY WERE GOING TO TRY TO TAKE OVER.
AND IT WASN'T REALLY UNTIL ABOUT SIX OR EIGHT MONTHS LATER THAT WE ACTUALLY LEARNED EXACTLY WHAT THE CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE DESIGNATION WOULD DO FOR US AND THAT IT WOULD PROVIDE ADDITIONAL
RESOURCES.
SOLEDAD: SO $380 MILLION WAS APPROPRIATED.
HOW DID THE STATE OF VERMONT USE THAT MONEY?
WHAT CAME OUT OF IT?
JIM CONDOS: SO FIRST THING WE DID WAS WE DID A COMPLETE PENETRATION TEST OF OUR ELECTION SYSTEM, WHICH CAME OUT IN GOOD SHAPE.
AND THEN, WE'RE ADDING TWO FACTOR AUTHENTICATION FOR ANY ACCESS INTO OUR VOTER ELECTION MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.
SOLEDAD: DO YOU HAVE -- I MEAN, DO YOU HAVE PROOF THAT PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO BREAK INTO YOUR VOTER ELECTORAL MANAGEMENT SYSTEM EVERY DAY?
JIM CONDOS: YES, WE DO.
WE MONITOR EVERY DAY.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT -- WE HAVE A GRAPH THAT SHOWS THAT SINCE APRIL OF THIS YEAR, WE'VE BEEN AVERAGING APPROXIMATELY TWO MILLION SCANS PER DAY.
ABOUT 800,000 OF THOSE PER DAY ARE WHAT WE CONSIDER UNAUTHORIZED SCANS.
THE GOOD NEWS IS WE HAVE THE DEFENSES IN PLACE TO BLOCK THEM.
SOLEDAD: SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS $250 MILLION.
I MENTIONED THAT THE SENATE SHOT THAT DOWN.
THEIR RATIONALE WAS WE WANT TO SEE HOW EVERYBODY SPENT THE PRIOR MONIES THAT WERE ALLOCATED BEFORE WE GET INTO THIS NEXT ROUND OF MONIES.
DO YOU THINK THAT'S A VALID RESPONSE FROM THE SENATE?
JIM CONDOS: I DO NOT.
I THINK THAT FRANKLY, IT KIND OF SURPRISED ME TO HEAR THAT.
WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, WE HAD $380 MILLION APPROPRIATED TO THE STATES.
AND WE DIDN'T START RECEIVING THAT MONEY UNTIL SOMETIME AROUND THE END OF MAY OR EARLY JUNE.
AND TO THINK THAT WE WOULD HAVE SPENT THAT MONEY ALREADY IS REALLY UNREASONABLE.
SOLEDAD: I MENTIONED THAT IT WAS NOT EXACTLY A BIPARTISAN VOT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF BOB CORKER WHO SIDED WITH THE DEMOCRATS ON IT.
WHY IS THIS A POLITICAL ISSUE?
THE SECURITY OF ELECTIONS IT SEEMS TO ME THAT EVERYBODY WOULD BE LIKE, "YEAH, SECURE.
THAT WOULD BE A GOOD THING." JIM CONDOS: WELL, WE THINK THAT VOTING IS THE BEDROCK OF OUR DEMOCRACY AND WE THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THE RESOURCES TO BE ABLE TO FOCUS ON
THE JOB AT HAND.
WE HAVE BEEN FOCUSED SINCE ESPECIALLY SINCE 2016 WHEN OUR WORLD WAS TURNED UPSIDE DOWN, AND WE'VE BEEN DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO SECURE OUR ELECTIONS PROCESS.
SOLEDAD: SO, SHOULD PEOPLE NOT JUST IN VERMONT BUT AROUND THE COUNTRY BELIEVE AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME THEIR VOTE AND THE ELECTION IS SAFE -- OR IT'S NOT SAFE?
JIM CONDOS: SOLEDAD, ONE OF THE THINGS TO REMEMBER IS CYBER SECURITY IS LIKE A RACE WITHOUT A FINISH LINE.
IT'S AN ONGOING PROBLEM.
IT'S AN ONGOING CONCERN, AND WE NEED TO FOCUS AND KEEP FOCUS GOING FORWARD.
SOLEDAD: YOU WOULD LIKE THAT $250 MILLION THAT THE SENATE DID NOT APPROVE.
JIM CONDOS IS THE SECRETARY OF STATE FOR THE STATE OF VERMONT.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
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