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Hello everybody. My name is Lauren Stegenga
and I'm so excited to bring a special guest to Empowering the Village today and really what we're doing is
Bringing awareness to amazing people amazing businesses that are really impacting our community. There's so many different ways
Really with the same mission of empowering people through wellness whether that's mind, body, or spirit and there's so many different
approaches so I
Wanted to introduce my guest, Shona Curley from Red Kite Meditations, correct?
Shona so thank you for coming on and the impact that you've had with the Lyme disease community
is really what I saw and I just wanted to bring you on and so excited to speak to you to
Thank you for coming on
So could you just start and just tell us about you and the red kite meditations and what that really is bringing to the community
Absolutely, so I've had mine for a bit. I think I got it in 2013. That's when I was bitten by a tick.
I didn't get sick for a little while. It sort of came on slowly. But now I've been in treatment for over a year
but before I knew that I had Lyme I started treating myself through meditations to
sort of reharmonization
Systems in my own body that I felt were so affected by whatever it was that was going on
So by last year before I was diagnosed I had written six
relatively long meditations each of which focuses on a different physiological system from the lymphatic system
To liver kidney detox to softening the vagus nerve and soothing anxiety. And insomnia
And various others the immune system, bone marrow and all of those systems
They were the places in my own body that I felt and by the disease and then when I was actually diagnosed with Lyme
It was a huge relief a because I finally knew that I wasn't insane
And also when I started to research Lyme disease it was validating because all of these systems are very much affected by one
So what I was sensing on an internal level was absolutely true
And it was at that point that I started feeling like I should put these out there for other people
especially as I read how many other people especially women are affected by Lyme disease and
particularly, the insomnia and anxiety at Lyme chronic Lyme can create
So it's my mission through recognitions
Just to share
meditative and movement tools that have helped me and my healing process and that continue to help me because treatment
Is such a long story it's not like oh, I finally got a diagnosis. So in two weeks and I'm going back to work
It's a little different now because you have that
Diagnosis. Yeah, I mean it's a weight off your shoulders to know what's wrong and it's also
Quite a long journey to find your way back to healing and what healing is may not look exactly like it
was before you got Lyme disease
so I
Want my website to be a resource for people as they go through the long journey of treatment and to help them on the days
They don't have an IV or they don't have a lymphatic massage
It's something you can do, the meditations in particular something you can do when your nervous system is just freaking out
You need extra help.
You need a little extra help. Yeah, and it's interesting because you know during treatments
Those are that specific time, so I remember you mentioning where
so obviously that insomnia is when you're trying to be sleep, and so those
Meditations are really available to you at any time of the day because it's it's not just you had a good day
it's sometimes you had a good hour.
So you mentioned about retraining the body, could you tell us about that process?
Retraining the brain you mean? Yes, when you were talking about the meditations and retraining. Oh I see so like retraining the systems, the physiological systems
Yeah, I think if that really is brain retraining
Because all of the systems are responsive to the brain essentially the brain is sort of master organizer
so and unfortunately with Lyme disease the brain can be so affected especially with neuro lyme and the
anxiety that that causes
And the systems themselves can be infected by the bacteria. So you have kind of a double whammy
With the bacteria and then the brain having a hard time organizing because of the infection. So for me the meditations are way
to
Help my brain
Figure out how to find a way back to homeostasis for those systems like if my
You know for a lot of one for just an example, my liver was really just not able to function it
Just wasn't, it was overwhelmed by the toxicity that the bacteria create and it just would feel like a sort of inner lump
It just wasn't doing its job it just couldn't handle it
so by using the meditation the liver meditation the detox liver and kidney meditation really brings heat into the liver and kidneys.
By using that image of fire and heat and sort of penetrating
Burning sensation, that would be good that would come into the liver. It just enlivened that tissue and felt good. It's like a good fire
Wow that's
Brilliant
It works which is just amazing thing on earth that you can visualize these systems and they respond
And especially during in between sessions and treatments and whatever you're doing on your journey. That's
what I thought what when you're talking about that is the simplicity of it where if you don't have
Clarity in the brain at that moment
What you're offering the community is a really simple tool where you just press play
and
you don't have to do it by yourself. Right. Because even you know, I have a lot of and
experiencial anatomy physiology
But for me if I would wake up in the middle of the night and be having a panic attack
I couldn't do it by myself
even with all the training that I have so I
Reported these meditations for myself first and I would just play them at 3 a.m. or
4 a.m. Or whenever it was that I would just be really struggling and alone and they worked
It helps my nervous system. And that's the key whether you understand meditation or not, the key is that it works! You don't have to understand it. That is the brillance of it
Could you talk about
the ability for the thoughts to change the physical body and kind of how
the brain and the body kind of work together because that's really powerful and I just want people to understand the
connection and at least from your perspective
Well, I think it's a bit mysterious looking honestly, I think that science
Absolutely does not understand it completely yet. The only thing that we can say is that it actually does work and
one of the ways that
Science has actually been able to look at this is and this is how I first started exploring it was through dance and movement
So I was a dancer in my twenties and thirties and we were taught from the viewing like in college
We were taught that there is something called armchair rehearsal if you lay back
And you had a difficult sequence of movement that you wanted to perfect. You could run through it in your mind
the way you
wanted it to feel, the grace and power that you wanted to express through the movement and all of your motor nerves would fire the
Same pathways as they would fire if he were actually dancing. So armchair reversal is actually in some cases
better than
Actual physical rehearsal because in physical rehearsal you might be struggling and your brain might not be able to find that smoothness or that grace
But if you imagine it your motor nerves would figure out how to do that for you and when you stood up and did it
again, it would be
Doable and I just so blown away by that in college my early 20s and how will it work and we all did it
performing we all
Integrated that into a rehearsal project process because it was so effective
And I took that into now
You know for a long time I did rehabilitation wouldn't work with people and still do that through my Pilates studio
So that was about if you have a muscle that is not firing
That's just not wired up to your brain anymore because of injury you can imagine it firing
I believe that motor sensory connection will start to fire again and the same thing is true for
Physiology if you have a liver that just isn't really working or you have a lymphatic system that is overburdened and not able to flow
by using the imagery by using the
feeling imagery of what it would be like if it were flowing if things were moving well and
Those images don't have to be cellular physiological. They can be poetic like amazingly there's such an
Intricate neural connection between the brain and the body regardless of what part of the body or system you're talking about
The brain is linked. It's woven in it's all the same as you use that imagery the systems respond and
you know now I do quite a bit of bodywork with people I work with people that have lung disease and
If we sit there in my hands on their head and they're imagining their lymph starting to flow through their brain
And I'm imagining it. I mean, it's just immediate you can feel it start to move
They can feel it start to move and the same thing is true for meditation. Wow, that is dynamic.
This is a magic tool that lives inside of each of us and we can use it to help heal chronic illness
And I when you're talking about it, it's like Lyme disease is obviously impacted your own personal life
I could see this helping so many people just with that commonality of
Chronic disease or you just aren't sure why things aren't working. I mean you mentioned the liver
The liver has just a few jobs
Poor thing I know so yeah anything you can do to just
nurture that and so if it's simply by pressing play for a meditation
That's such a gift especially the people. Yeah, yeah
amazing responses from people who are able to sleep without drugs, you know and feel their anxiety decrease and that just is
What I live for at this point
Yeah, is there for the viewers, is there anything just a message of hope that you would like to leave them
During, if they're having a rough day
Or just something that helped you through this time.
Think just that you're not alone. There are so many people suffering with Lyme disease right now. It's really
one of the I think one of the biggest issues
of our time in terms of health and I think we feel alone because conventional
medicine doesn't recognize us yet, but
There's a lot of people going through the same process and the same journey and it's long and it's challenging
It's emotional. It's intense
Yeah
It's a journey. I mean, it's I mean, honestly, I think it's a spiritual journey and if you can find your way through
Everyday you're doing it. You are doing it
With you and love you doing the process
Yeah, and it is just the nurturing I've just coming together and I love your message it's you are not alone
No matter what you're going through you're not alone. I love that. That's a great message of hope
and your voice matters to you know your
It doesn't matter if modern medicine hasn't caught up yet and you're a voice and you're in fact even more your voice and experience matter
Could you speak about,
kind of the myths or
Misunderstanding I know the community I am involved in some of the families don't understand
Because some we often misdiagnosed so once I actually do get a diagnosis about of Lyme
you know, it's like oh
I'm not being lazy. I really I have no energy
It's I hear that very often and so is there anything you can share about just the family
finding their way to understand a little bit more of what's going on with that person
Actually, that's very difficult. But just because of the fact that it takes so long to diagnose and there's so little
Cultural and medical support for the experience of Lyme disease sufferers. I
Mean, I think it's a burden for the families of people with Lyme and I mean not to be underestimated
It's very hard to see the person that you love suffering and to not understand
Why you can't just call the doctor and ask for help? Why don't they help you?
and you know
I think it's gonna change in the next 10 years or so cuz there's just too many people
Getting sick for it not to cause a shift. Yeah, but for now, I mean, I think that
parents of children with Lyme disease husbands and wives with Lyme disease and vice versa
Families of people with Lyme disease need support and you know, they are also not alone. It's a horrible disease
It's it's brutal. It's chronic. It does not give up without a fight
It leaves you changed, you know, and I think people with Lyme deserve just as much support as patients with mime honestly
It's yeah my poor husband has
It's been a long haul for him
You want to divorce me? It's okay.
I get it, I won't take it personal. You didn't sign up for this and neither did I
Oh my gosh, tight and thin
How can people reach you and learn more about
You know what you offer in your journey my site, is redkitemeditation.com. Yeah, and I
Have referred people to your site
Over and over again because it's really about the simplicity of it
You know when it's in between sessions or in between treatments and whatnot. It's simply press play
It's really dynamic
Thank you so so much
I am so grateful to come across you and and I'm grateful that you were able to spend some time with us and
hear what you have to offer so
Thank you. Thank you everybody for tuning in and
We will see you next time
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