well the midterm elections are coming up tomorrow and one topic of discussion is
universal health care but does this thing actually work I brought a very
special guest to discuss the topic what is everybody this is Chris from the
rewired salt where we talk about the problem but focus on the solution any
field new to my channel my channel is all about mental health so I make a ton
of videos to try to help you improve your mental and emotional well-being but
also to help you be more aware of what's going on especially when it comes to
healthcare and YouTube channel so go check it out although she talks about
all things mental health anyway she's from the UK so I was like hey girl like
we're having a point of debate for years now is universal health care in the
United States with some questions about universal mental health care in the UK
so before I let Kay take it away I just want to talk about some things because
again I just want you to go out and vote if you're watching this video you care
about mental health care like go out and vote support whatever you think is best
I don't care who you vote for but go vote but on my channel I just want to
kind of make you aware of some stuff going on in the United States when it
comes to mental healthcare so something to take into consideration is the
Affordable Care Act okay so the Affordable Care Act is is amazing like
there are some things that might need to be tweaked with it but with the
Affordable Care Act they were quiet they were quiet
insurance companies to cover mental health treatment as well as addiction
recovery treatment now depending on what insurance plan you have and how much
they cover that's a whole different story but there's a lot of people who
are trying to repeal the Affordable Care Act but we need to realize that mental
health care is part of that so if that gets repealed there's a chance
no mental healthcare oh no something to take into consideration - is the
out-of-pocket costs like me personally I have had really good insurance for the
past few years really really good insurance I still have a very large
doesn't always you know sometimes I can't even do it like so when it comes
to physical healthcare like I couldn't even go you know do my sleep study
because it would have cost about two thousand dollars out-of-pocket so I'm
just trying to lose weight to work on my sleep anyways we've talked about you
know price availability so anyways I just want to talk a little bit with the
mental healthcare system in the UK she also works in mental health care
treatment so she's a discusses Lowe and welcome so Chris has kindly asked me to
guest on his channel to talk about universal healthcare so I'm gonna be
talking about my experiences with the NHS I'm sure you've heard of it
something that we have in the UK I also work for the NHS so I kind of have
experience kind of being a service user but they call that or patient and
working for the NHS in inpatient acute services so yeah if you don't know who I
am hi my name is Kay I'm also known as
bipolar pug here on YouTube and I make videos all about mental health bipolar
but other stuff as well so Chris has got some questions he wants me to answer
about universal health care and what it's like is any good hmm yeah so chris
says he basically only has three questions which is good um okay so
question number one is how long does it take to see a therapist or psychologist
now this is a really tricky question because it really really varies in yet
in the NHS I've known people to wait over a year first psychological
treatment some people have left some people wait up to four years for
psychological treatment and some of the extreme cases yeah I feel like within
the NHS within adult services it is quite difficult to get psychological
therapies and the kind of therapies that they focus on a kind of short form
therapies like CBT called behavioural therapy which can be really
helpful for some but sometimes they only offer ten sessions sometimes they only
offer phone calls within like the well-being service enough of
psychological therapy that they offer is cat therapy which again is quite a short
form therapy with in child and adolescent mental health I know they
offer some more long-form therapies because there's a lot of focus on early
intervention family therapy is quite popular but a lot of the times the only
things that they will offer is very short structured forms of therapy no
kind of long term person-centered therapy I tried to get therapy for quite
a long time if my bipolar disorder I've had CBT on the NHS and I found that it
was helpful but it kind of didn't really address anything underneath the surface
so I actually went private and I'm currently getting a CT therapy which is
acceptance and commitment therapy and it has changed my world like it's changed
the way that I view my behaviors my thoughts my feelings kind of being able
to observe situations kind of outside of that sphere rather than directly kind of
acting on how I'm thinking and how I'm feeling and I've been getting that
therapy for over a year now and I'm still getting that therapy and that's
not something that the NHS offer however it really depends sometimes on where you
live on what kind of therapies that you get and how long you get them for so
it's kind of yeah it's kind of tricky I know a lot of the time for PTSD therapy
and EMDR which is the eye rapid motion bill you the one where you kind of
relive traumatic experiences and kind of work through them I don't think that's
available in the NHS something that they're really quite hot on at the
moment is DBT therapy however they don't offer that independently they tend to
offer something called a steps group so that's a group program of DBT therapy
and a lot of people with you know emotional dysregulation EPD BPD what
they call it in America have really responded to that but
one-to-one therapy zuv Annie NHS are quite hard to come by with any NHS they
try to do a lot of groups so like psycho-educational kind of stuff rather
than one-to-one therapy a lot the time but you know someone else could come and
say look I have a long form of therapy within the NHS but that's not something
that I really hear about a lot yeah that was a very long-winded answer to that
question but I hope that's helpful okay so number two what's the admissions
process like for emergency mental healthcare again I I don't like to slag
off the NHS because the NHS is a really valuable thing and without being
hospitalized numerous times throughout the years because my bipolar disorder I
would not be alive or it wouldn't be able to afford treatment might be in
like ridiculous amounts of debt so it has worked for me however the admissions
process for emergency mental health care is really tricky so the first point of
call would be to go to A&E or the emergency room and you'll wait in a
really stressful environment for a really long time one of my experiences
as I waited 12 hours to be seen by a mental health professional and they have
something called the mental health liaison teams so they will decide
whether people need to see crisis teams which are amazing it's an amazing thing
that we have of any NHS where people come to our homes every day and checking
on us it's almost like a hospital on wheels where you have professionals come
and chat to you and assess your risk the fingers of an NHS is they try to promote
the least restrictive interventions so they don't like hospitalizing people you
have to be very very very very unwell to be hospitalized
so the first port of call would be to go to the any wait a really long time to be
assessed sometimes they recommend hospitalization sometimes they detain
people under the Mental Health Act which basically means people can be treated in
hospital against their will and they're deprived of their liberty a lot of the
time with an adult mental health care people go informally especially people
that have gone through you know depression suicidal stuff it's not great
and it is used as a very last resort people
being treated in hospital within emergencies I think a lot of the time
with the NHS there just isn't enough staff and resources to go around to help
people that are in crisis people do fall through the cracks and people do die so
but again you know on the other side of it a lot of people are caught by that
safety net and a lot of people are supported by crisis teams and they get
them out that crisis phase and they don't have to go to hospital which is
amazing because you know if you think about it you know if you were sectioned
today think about what you would lose you know your home maybe your pets being
able to see your friends and family what about your job you know so kind of
promoting least restrictive interventions are really great but yeah
like it's it's not amazing emergency mental health care and I think it's the
same anywhere really it's not something that we've really perfected so yeah
that's kind of really how it works okay so the final question is oh boy
would you rather have America's health care system brackets feel free to laugh
your ass off when answering us no the short answer to this is no although I've
had to go private to get my kind of therapy needs map the NHS has met a lot
of my emergency healthcare needs being hospitalized community psychiatric
nurses you know crisis teams all that kind of stuff I would be in so much debt
ridiculous amounts of debt for the amount of times that I've been
hospitalized over the years and yeah the NHS is flawed underfunded in a lot of
ways but it has provided a safety net for a lot of people that have been in
crisis it is not a completely holistic rounded you know care where everybody's
needs are met especially fair pew techniques but it has saved a lot of
lives and I am very passionate about the NHS and I'm very protective about the
NHS but I'm also very aware that the NHS is very flawed and needs more money
basically it just needs more money but so does the NHS as a whole but yeah
sometimes I think mental health isn't as addressed as importantly as some of the
other issues but there is a service there and yeah I'm really I'm really
passionate about it and I think as time goes on and especially in the last 10
years mental health is more of a prevalent thing among a lot of people
and yeah I think it's really important that we promote the least restrictive
practices for people so not putting people in hospital all the time unless
they absolutely positively need it however we are failing a lot of people
who are kind of slipping through the net if that makes sense so yeah I hope that
was helpful my name is Kay again hi I'm also known
as bipolar Park Hill and YouTube please subscribe to me if you'd like to I make
regular videos on mental health and very passionate about it and yeah I hope you
like this little video so yeah take care thank you so much for sharing your
experience with the UK's mental healthcare because these are often you
know what people debate about it you know the long waits and all this and and
yeah it's true it's true like there are longer waits but when I was talking to
Kay after after I watch the video and we were just deeming on Twitter like
something something that's important to realize is is that even in the UK
they're putting more they're allocating more money to physical health care than
mental health care right so one of the reasons I have this channel one of the
reasons I try to get you to help spread awareness is that we need to let people
know like this is a big deal right and we also need to understand there's a lot
of medical conditions like physical conditions that are triggered by mental
health issues for example heart problems based on stress and anxiety you know
other medical issues like more heart issues I just know someone my heart
issues were based on things like depression anxiety like I know and all
of that so if we start putting more funding towards mental health care
you'll start to see physical health problems going down like when I was
talking about in my video about universal basic income like that's
something that we need to realize is that hospitalizations and health issues
decrease as you start to treat mental health right now what argument that came
up in the universal basic income video was where we gonna get the money where
we gonna get money you know you probably can guess but I will say this like one
of the weakest arguments out there is where we gotta find the money for it
like if you look if you look I'm just throwing this out there if you look at
the amount of money we're spending on offensive Wars and our military
especially compared to any other nation right what I would say is like nobody
ever asked where the money's coming from we decided to go to you know do these
offensive Wars or put trillions of dollars into the military nobody even
asks where that money's gonna come from so I just want you to think about that
where's the money gonna come from right but the other thing that I want to talk
about is is okay was talking about the debt right like I don't know about you
but for me being a massive amounts of debt or not being able to for things can
also trigger more anxiety and more depression that's something to consider
okay so she did talk about how there are some long legs
sometimes it takes a lot sometimes the emergency mental health care isn't the
best but I also want you to take into consideration that that Kate also said
she gets private mental health care so by having universal health care because
one of the other arguments is that it would be taking away people's options
right people wouldn't have options but if you look at what the uk's doing
people still have the options so if you don't want to do the you know the
government-funded route you could still go see and I don't know how much this is
converted but anyways like if you think about what a lot of people are paying
for therapy sessions here in the United States with health insurance
it's almost as much so just take that stuff in consideration all right so I
just wanted to bring this topic we're coming over but the midterms are
November 6 there tomorrow and even if you're watching this video afterwards
it's just something to think about okay if you care about mental health need to
understand how who we elect affects our mental health alright baby weighs let me
know down in down in the comments below what are your thoughts about universal
health care mental health treatment if you're from another country that has
universal health care like how much of this was similar to caves experience in
the UK is it different in other places let us know down in the comments below
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