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all right you're looking at live pictures right now of Secretary of State

Mike Pompeo meeting with the chief nuclear negotiator of north korea kim

yong-chul both the former top spy chiefs of the

respective nations they are at this condominium in midtown Manhattan just a

few blocks from where where I am right now sitting down for an extraordinary

meeting this is one of three meetings the two are having we heard earlier they

dined last night and we're told by a State Department spokeswoman Katherine

Heather Knauer that that was a quote great dinner but there is quote a lot of

work to do so now they sit down for what will be a half-day meeting and they'll

do a lot of work these two men just below President Trump and Kim jong-eun

they are setting the table for what will be or likely will be the June 12th

summit in the June 12th summit in Singapore and Brianna let me bring you

in here with this because this is pretty extraordinary these images were seeing

yeah this is fascinating right so you don't normally get all of this access

where you're looking into a meeting and I think it just goes to show how

important this is to this administration to show that there is some that there's

some obviously work being done on the the the front end here papi yeah let's

bring in our foreign policy guests as well to talk about this as we as we look

at those pictures and and try to rear a cure so people can see what's going on

joining it do we have our guest guys all right thank you both for being here very

very much we appreciate it and Jung let me just begin with you we're told by the

State Department that this went well the dinner last night but there's a lot of

work still to do and you have sort of warned against under estimating Kim

jong-un here so so set the table for what you think is happening at that

table right now in midtown Manhattan right so I think that it's great that

they were establishing rapport but I think steak is not going to get kim

youngchul to give away the store as others have mentioned the North

Koreans considered the nuclear weapons program as a guarantee of regime

security so the next four hours is a hard task for secretary Pompeo I see

that State Department and CIA are represented at that table so I got some

seasoned John I'm sorry to interrupt you we'll be right back to you I want to

listen to President Trump speaking on the tarmac

as we're going to Dallas or Houston and we're going to have a little fun today

thank you

we'll see what happens it's a process it's all a process we'll see and

hopefully we'll have a meeting on the 12th that's going along very well but I

want it to be meaningful it doesn't mean it gets all done at one meeting maybe

you have to have a second or a third and maybe we'll have none but it's in good

hands that I can tell you you know that actually thank you all right president

Trump they're just moments ago and that tape that we were just able to turn

around as he's leaving for a fundraising tour a heading to Texas papi and it's

just it's stunning right how you how you watch this you see that video that we

just saw coming in from where you are in New York and it's all being so

stage-managed right this is made made for television negotiation I mean it it

right I mean he you know was you know the apprentice reality television and

this is diplomacy playing out in real life on television in front of our eyes

and we'll go back to you Jeong it is remarkable as Briana points out the fact

that we saw those pictures just moments ago of Secretary of State Mike Pompeo

and kim jong-chul sitting down and then we have the president saying just there

yeah looks like well maybe gonna have the summit maybe we can get this done in

one meeting maybe we'll take two or three meetings you know but it's all in

good hands what do you make of the fact that so much of this is playing out in

real time in front of the world if anybody knows how to play real time and

optics it's the North Koreans their regime is built on propaganda and making

sure that the people see what they want to see I think the North Koreans have

been pretty clear and consistent that they're not going to give up their

nuclear weapons but I think kim youngchul is going to dangle just enough

in front of secretary Pompeo so that Pompeyo can return to trump and say that

everything's fine and that the summit can go ahead and Shawn you know you

heard the president speaking there right he said a lot of it was kind of just

platitudes right he said it's very positive the meetings have been positive

hopefully still going to have the June 12th summit going on

maybe there will be a second or third meeting that was sort of curious did he

mean a second or third meeting between him and kim jeong-hoon I mean so that so

he's opening the door to that but then he also said maybe there will be no

meeting so all possibilities here on the table

right and I think we have to recognize this for what it is over the past couple

of weeks there has been this effort to kind of manage expectations with regard

to this meeting if it should happen you know it's this is interesting because

the administration has gone from a very clear and matter-of-fact decision to

want clear verifiable and irreversible dismantling of nucleus program to maybe

there'll be a second meeting maybe this is a process maybe this will take place

over time which is a bit of a shift on the part of the administration so I

found it very interesting what the president said there but I also think

it's really interesting that you've got two former heads of intelligence

agencies that have been adversaries for a long time sitting down across the

table from each other and these two men are they look this is not for them it's

not just about getting this summit back on track it's about getting a sense for

what the other side is sneaking and figuring out how much wiggle room there

is and whether or not there's even a reason to go forward with this summit I

think that for right now we are still we are still fairly far apart with regard

to what North Korea is willing to give and what the United States absolutely

wants and junk Russia is now a larger part of the picture here right because

you have the the Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov sitting down with kim jeong-hoon

this morning and two notable things that came out of that meeting we all know

we're sort of Russia stands in terms of being more an ally with North Korea than

with the United States on this but he said that sanctions must be lifted

against North Korea until denuclearization can happen one and he

also warned against quote sudden moves in these negotiations Jung what do you

think Russia is trying to do here so Russia has been sidelined in most of

this process and I think that the Russians like the Chinese want

denuclearization but the Russians and the Chinese do agree that there has to

be some sort of phased approach that North Korea has to have some incentives

to move forward on denuclearization so what the North Koreans have been

successful in doing is to rally this the Chinese and the Russians

their side so that they can have a stronger position going into the summit

with President Trump and and Sean can you imagine as we just heard elise labid

reporting about how there is this sticking point over deed nuclearization

so it seems like there's just one but this is huge right this is a gulf

between how North Korea is going to define this what they are going to

accept what the US wants to see clearly the president wants to shut it all down

but it's very difficult to see how Kim jong-un would be on board with anything

really close to that yeah as you know as this as this summit goes forward we know

what the United States wants and Kim Young Kim Jungman actually goes into

this meeting with somewhat of an advantage because what we're really

trying to figure out here is what he's willing to give there's no ambiguity

about what the United States wants it's about what he's willing to give so I

think at this point as as we move forward if the if the president stays at

the table knowing that he's not going to get the grand deal then that is somewhat

of a victory for for Kim and for North Korea depending on what he does if when

he stays at the table that'll tell us whether or not the president is actually

going to be able to get something that his predecessors have not been able to

get but at this point you're right we still got a vast gulf here between what

the United States wants and what North Korea is willing to give that's what he

wants poppy the grand deal it's hard to imagine the president wanting something

different right it's a very very hard to imagine that guys thank you very much we

appreciate it

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